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simply seth

 | |  | | Michael Administrator

 | Subject: Re: The Anathemas of the Second Counsel of Constantinople Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:57 pm | |
| | simply seth wrote: | | Quote: | II. If anyone does not confess that God the Word was twice begotten, the first before all time from the Father, non-temporal and bodiless, the other in the last days when he came down from the heavens and was incarnate by the holy, glorious, God-bearer, ever-virgin Mary, and born of her, let him be anathema.
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Wha ?? Ever-Virgin ??  |
Yes. They believe that Mary never had any other children after Jesus was born. However, the Bible tells us that he had some bro's. James was one of them.
The phrase "let him be anathema" is one that I find Catholics I converse with reluctant to hold onto, trying to change the meaning of anathema. Many people are trying to include Catholics into the brotherhood of Christianity, but they certainly don't believe US to be Christians at all. We reject many of the "anathemas" and therefore, to them, should be cursed.
For once, I'd like to meet an honest Catholic who will tell me he believes I am going to hell. _________________ It's true that doctrine divides. It's also true that love unifies. The unity we have in the faith is rooted and grounded in truth and love. Remove truth (right theology and doctrine) from the mix and you have less than Biblical unity. Remove love and you have no unity. Love causes us to seek truth and share that truth with others so that we become more unified. God is truth, and as we are more acquainted with His truth, the closer we are to Him, and the closer we become to each other
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 | Subject: Re: The Anathemas of the Second Counsel of Constantinople Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:45 pm | |
| Not only this, but according to the council of trent's canon on justification, | Quote: | | “If anyone saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified , is only the favour of God; let him be anathema” |
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|  | | Michael Administrator

 | Subject: Re: The Anathemas of the Second Counsel of Constantinople Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:21 am | |
| This actually belongs in the Cults/False Religions forum. _________________ It's true that doctrine divides. It's also true that love unifies. The unity we have in the faith is rooted and grounded in truth and love. Remove truth (right theology and doctrine) from the mix and you have less than Biblical unity. Remove love and you have no unity. Love causes us to seek truth and share that truth with others so that we become more unified. God is truth, and as we are more acquainted with His truth, the closer we are to Him, and the closer we become to each other
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|  | | G.R.A.C.E. Preecha Administrator

 | Subject: Re: The Anathemas of the Second Counsel of Constantinople Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:42 am | |
| | simply seth wrote: |
Not only this, but according to the council of trent's canon on justification, | Quote: | | “If anyone saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified , is only the favour of God; let him be anathema” |
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Hence, my major irritation with people who try to say 'Oh, Catholics are our brothers!'. I'm like....dude... you just sold out the biblical gospel to call someone a 'brother' who denies the gospel.  |
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